Religion ruins the world eh?

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by Otaku » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:58 am

If you actually read the bible it doesn't force people to do stuff.
It just says your sinful if you do this or that's an act against god.
And just because it's impossibly hard to believe why the heck would you think it's BS?
Not saying I support the bible or anything, just trying to explain how your ideas backfire.

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by steveking99 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:59 am

jadeylady96 wrote:A dollar? cookies too please... :D

*Hand marijuana*
Oh uhhhh thats dirt buy it please?

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by Otaku » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:01 am

Okay, this thread turned into spam.
Let's close this thread and lock it before we all get banned for talking about sensitive matters.

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by MyRaInBoWs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:01 am

Otaku wrote:I don't believe that religion ruins the world and I agree you have a good point.
But, many problems in the world can stem from religion.

Religion might make people happy but on the other side of the spectrum, people died to keep that religion dominant or intact.
This might have never needed to happen if mankind could be responsible for one self.
Lives and freedom > Happiness
In my opinion.
and
With Freedom you can gain happiness through your own hard work and your own power which is much more rewarding.


I never said that religion was spotless, but most of the battles/wars that we've had are mostly because each side thought that their religion was "True"
jadeylady96 wrote:I hate religion. What if there is no 'god', no 'statue of awesomeness' to worship? You're wasting your time.
I've been through that religion nonsense, forced into it by my mum, when i lived with her anyway.
What a load of crap. All the questions,no answers, the AMAZING impossible lies in the bible.
Wooooo (:

Thats why you hate religion, you were forced into it. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Faith
your AMAZING impossible lies, give me an example where science can fully explain something that happened that was a "Miracle"
If you are forced by other people than your parents, then know that you are not forced, they cannot control your mind, you can rebel and not go to church



oh and Spam? I AM EXPRESSING MY FEELINGS AND STEVE IS BEING ANNOYING -Im not trying to be mean, its the truth-

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by jadeylady96 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:04 am

Otaku wrote:If you actually read the bible it doesn't force people to do stuff.
It just says your sinful if you do this or that's an act against god.
And just because it's impossibly hard to believe why the heck would you think it's BS?
Not saying I support the bible or anything, just trying to explain how your ideas backfire.


I had to read all the bible by reading a chapter a night, then repeating that.
God creates THE WHOLE EARTH in 6days, 7th for sleeping.
Jesus walks on water.
More food appears when it runs out.
Jesus comes back to life.
Adam got in s* trouble for eating an apple
Bread is his body, wine is his blood.
Sea's seperating.

God, I could be here all day, Can it get any lamer?

Whereeee were the dino's in the BIBLE?
And, humans and fish etc werent the first dam thing alive!!

edit : I was young rainbows, I didnt have a choice if i was sent to church every sunday and holiday occasions.

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by steveking99 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:06 am

Maybe it was gods favorite apple?

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Post by MyRaInBoWs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:06 am

jadeylady96 wrote:Whereeee were the dino's in the BIBLE?
And, humans and fish etc werent the first dam thing alive!!

edit : I was young rainbows, I didnt have a choice if i was sent to church every sunday and holiday occasions.



Well have you red the section were it "predicts the future"? Did you know that more than half those things have happened?

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by steveking99 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:08 am

Bible=VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY OLD DIARY OF A 14 YEAR OLD MALE WITH RAGING HORMONES.

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Post by jadeylady96 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:16 am

LOL... O-o, Uhhh,Yeah,Too far, I think it was a 15year old actuallly.....
lmao jk, yeah, just too far steve x3

edit : k,going bed now,3am,bored,tired,bye.

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by Whee » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:24 am

Religion is the basis for history, as the birth of Jesus, or w/e, marks the start of A.D, the year 0.
For all that matters, religion is what binds people as a group with similar ideals; people gradually join if they liked the morals and standards set by one, despised and ruled heretics of another they disliked or went against their own religious standards. Thus, the Crusades raged with Believers of both sides fighting for what they believed in.
Heck, tell me any war that wasn't ignited by immoral actions to another, or by a religion that questioned power in such morals. The wars we fight today doesn't seem to be too different from the Crusades, since taking the Iraq "War" in view, there are prisons dedicated to torture, yet shut down due to it being unethical. Suicide bombers, as Steve gave an example of, were influenced by their religion to do so, as it was an honorable act, in their point of view.
Atheism FTW/who the heck named a "religion" not believing any religion?
Off-Who invented the facepalm?!

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by jonlin » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:56 am

*DISCLAIMER*
I personally have no belief in religion but nothing against it. what you believe is your choice.
*End Disclaimer*


Let me say one thing:
Extremely religous people tend to believe that dinosaur bones and any 'proof' of life more than however long ago the world was 'created' is a fake put on earth to test our belief.

Also, many wars were avoided and anarchy was not allowed to reign because of what? religion. Faith held people together. yes it killed thousands, but it saved millions. It laid down rules for society (10 commandments) and gave the public something to believe in during tough times.

So, in my opinion Religion is fake yes. but it also helped humans survive the dark ages. think about that before saying simply: RELIGION IS DUMB, DURRRRR!

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Post by twister7boy » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:43 am

well i don't follow just one.
but if you look in almost all taking away the negative ones.
they all say love thee neighbor.
i do find it funny how the ten commandments have changed during the times last year.
plus now some say you have to go to hell to get to heaven.
regardless how is it the bible changed but the word of god to those religions didn't?
i know because they said it changed with modern times.
not because god or a messenger for god changed them.
so the human race of today's times changed them.
to me this mean they are saying god is or was wrong in the later bibles.
along with the ten commandments.
just because the times changed doesn't mean the bible did?
i think religion is good except when fighting with others to rule as one.
if it works for people let them have their believes in it.

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by playa4life01 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:50 pm

jadeylady96 wrote:
Otaku wrote:If you actually read the bible it doesn't force people to do stuff.
It just says your sinful if you do this or that's an act against god.
And just because it's impossibly hard to believe why the heck would you think it's BS?
Not saying I support the bible or anything, just trying to explain how your ideas backfire.


I had to read all the bible by reading a chapter a night, then repeating that.
God creates THE WHOLE EARTH in 6days, 7th for sleeping.
Jesus walks on water.
More food appears when it runs out.
Jesus comes back to life.
Adam got in s* trouble for eating an apple
Bread is his body, wine is his blood.
Sea's seperating.

God, I could be here all day, Can it get any lamer?

Whereeee were the dino's in the BIBLE?
And, humans and fish etc werent the first dam thing alive!!

edit : I was young rainbows, I didnt have a choice if i was sent to church every sunday and holiday occasions.


it wasnt adam, it was eva that ate the apple, adam was responsible for her, so they were both sent out of heaven
you guys really dont care about religion do you

and its not the fault of religion that wars and stuff like that happen, its a person that tries to mislead ppl by telling them lies

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by lolificated » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:05 pm

thank you playa,i myself have always believed there's a Higher power somewhere and dont just call him "invisible man in the sky" if you are a decently educated person,ude respect what others choose,so if u talk to a christian about God,please DON'T say" aww demn that ghost in d skai is shitz yo" please, dont use such behavior as it shows lack of decency towards 1s opinions,i myself respect an atheist for what he chooses or a jew for not believing Jesus was god's son,(it was wrong for eve to eat the apple cause the devil was forcing her to eat it,which if she did she'd fall into temptation,disapproving of god's will to 1s concious to control himself to avoid temptation)regarding the title, if a boy had a lollipop,and another boy wanted 1,he shouldnt steal his,if he did he's likely to cause a feud, he could buy 1 instead.If you understand my point it's the ones who dont think thouroughly who start a war,not the cause,(lollipop-religion in this case)i forgot what else i had to say so.yeah

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Post by MyRaInBoWs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:10 pm

playa4life01 wrote:it wasnt adam, it was eva that ate the apple, adam was responsible for her, so they were both sent out of heaven
you guys really dont care about religion do you

and its not the fault of religion that wars and stuff like that happen, its a person that tries to mislead ppl by telling them lies

Ok so God gave Adam and Eva 2 commandments, #1 reply and replenish the earth and #2 don't eat the fruit.
The did not have the knowledge at the time to know right from wrong. They did not have the knowledge to do #1 and the only way they could do that is to eat of the fruit of knowledge. How can he give 2 commandments that they have to break one, and it be THEIR falt?
steveking99 wrote:Bible=VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY OLD DIARY OF A 14 YEAR OLD MALE WITH RAGING HORMONES.
It was a 15 year old and it wasn't the bible, it was the mormon scriptures and it wasn't a diary, He found it in a hole. o.0

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by lolificated » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:06 pm

i tought the apple thing was about satan

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by MyRaInBoWs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:43 pm

yeah it is and it wasn't an apple it was Fruit

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Re: Religion ruins the world eh?

Post by zenopop » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:52 pm

is it ALL religions or just Christianity are you talking about

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Post by MyRaInBoWs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:59 pm

mostly christianity, because(I think its called atheists) don't believe in god and the bible(I think, tell me if im wrong)

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Post by lolificated » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:11 pm

MyRaInBoWs wrote:mostly christianity, because(I think its called atheists) don't believe in god and the bible(I think, tell me if im wrong)

ur right also zeno watch your step.

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